Logos Bible Software 4
Like John, for the last few months I've been keeping a secret, not for me but for someone else. But I can't stand it anymore. I have to spill it: Logos 4 is out! I've been among the privileged few (quite a few it seems) who have been hammering away at beta releases of Logos Bible Software's next
generation.
As beta testers, we've all done our part to break it as frequently as possible so that it won't break in your hands. The programmers, some of whom we've begun to recognize by name have done an outstanding Job developing a product that responds to the needs of Pastor's, teachers, seminarians, scholars and every Christian who wants to learn more about God's word.
In addition to simply announcing Logos4 today I'd like to also give you a combined walkthrough, an overview, and a bit of an operating manual and review along the way. I'll be posting throughout the day. So read on my friends and enjoy the news that the next generation of Logos Bible Software is ready to find a home on your computer.
Don't have a copy but want a discount? Send me an email and I'll send you a coupon code just for you. Note that the coupon codes are only for new users. If you're already registered with L3, the best you'll get is the upgrade discount through Logos at: http://www.logos.com/upgrade
Also: remember that the engine is free. You can (soon) download and install L4 right next to your L3 installation for free and use all your existing books (minus PBB until later) without paying anything. The upgrade fees include more books than your current library levels.
- Have you seen Logos 4 yet? I have...
- Installation and First Run
- Preparing and Indexing your L4 Library
- Logos 4 Splash Screen
- L4 Home Page
- Study the way you want to
- Hiding Resourcs
- Will my PBB's work in L4?
- Other Reviews
- Moving from Logos 3 to Logos 4
- Comparing the Logos Packages
- Copying Logos 4 from one computer to another
- Experiences importing Libronix 3 user data into Logos 4.0b
- Highlighting
- Is Something Missing?
- Logos 4 PBB is here!
- Libronix PBB Files
- A. J. Gordon
- A. W. Pink
- A. W. Tozer
- Abraham Kuyper
- Adolf Harnack
- Albert Barnes
- Albert Benjamin Simpson
- Alexander Campbell
- Alexander MacLaren
- Alfred Edersheim
- Allan MacRae
- Andrew Murray
- Archibald Thomas Robertson
- Arno C. Gaebelein
- Assorted
- "Hinduism and Buddhism Vol. 1 - A Historical Study"
- A Spate of New Libronix Titles
- Additional Miscellaneous Books
- Communist Manifesto In Libronix PBB format
- Couple PD commentaries in PBB format
- Grammar of Septuagint and PSEUDEPIGRAPHA - PBB format
- More Libronix PBB Books
- New Libronix PBB books
- PBB:PD Theology Collection
- PBBs from the Logos Files Newsgroup
- Public Domain History Collection - PBB format
- Studies in Christian Character - PBB format
- The Religion of Babylonia and Assyria
- B. B. Warfield
- Beverly Carradine
- Bibles
- Bob DeWaay
- C.H. Irvin : John Calvin 1509–1564 The Man and His Work
- Charles Bridges
- Charles Darwin
- Charles Finney
- Charles Hodge
- Charles Spurgeon
- David Guzik
- David Harsha
- Desiderius Erasmus
- Dwight Lyman Moody
- Edmond de Pressensé
- Edmund Venables
- Edward McKendree Bounds
- Ernst Wilhelm Hengstenberg
- Christology of the Old Testament, Volume II
- Christology of the Old Testament, Volume III
- Christology of the Old Testament, Volume IV
- E.W. Hengstenberg: Christology of the Old Testament, Vol. I
- Hengstenberg on Ecclesiastes
- Hengstenberg on Revelation, Vol. 1
- Hengstenberg on Revelation, Vol. 2; Revelation Vol. 1 Updated
- Hengstenberg on the Psalms, Vol. 1
- Hengstenberg on the Psalms, Vol. 2
- Hengstenberg on the Psalms, Vol. 3
- Hengstenberg's Psalms 1 + 2 Updated
- Hengstenberg: Commentary on Ezekiel
- Hengstenberg: Commentary on Gospel of John, Vol. 2
- Hengstenberg: History of the Kingdom of God Under the Old Testament, Vol. 1
- Hengstenberg: History of the Kingdom of God Under the Old Testament, Vol. 2
- Revelation Vol. 1 by Hengstenberg Revised
- Evelyn Underhill
- Frederick Brotherton Meyer
- Friedrich Wilhelm Krummacher
- Geerhardus Vos
- Geneva Bible Notes in PBB format
- George Morrison
- George Whitefield
- H. C. Leupold
- Hannah Whithall Smith
- Henry Allen Ironside
- Henry Law Collection in PBB Format
- Horatius Bonar Collection in PBB format
- J. C. Philpot
- J. Gresham Machen
- James Arminius
- James Candlish: The Biblical Doctrine of Sin
- James Denney
- James Devotional From TrailBlazin Ministries
- James Strong
- James Yu
- John Angell James Collection in PBB format
- John Bunyan's "The Works" in PBB format
- John Butler
- John Calvin
- John Charles Ryle
- John Donne
- John Flavel Collection - PBB format
- John Fox's Book of Martyrs in PBB format
- John Gill
- John MacDuff Collection in PBB format
- John McGarvey
- John Milton
- John Newton
- John Owen Collection in PBB
- John Peters
- Jonathan Edwards
- Joseph Addison
- Joseph Alleine
- Josephus
- Julian of Norwich
- Karl Barth
- Lewis R. Packard
- Lewis Sperry Chafer
- Louis Berkhof
- Louis Ginzberg
- Martin Luther
- Octavius Winslow Collection in PBB format
- Patrick Fairbairn
- Divine Revelation Explained and Vindicated
- Fairbairn on Jonah Revised
- Fairbairn on Pastoral Theology
- Patrick Fairbairn on Jonah
- Patrick Fairbairn on Prophecy
- Patrick Fairbairn, Typology of Scripture
- Patrick Fairbairn: Commentary on Ezekiel
- Patrick Fairbairn: Commentary on the Pastoral Epistles
- Patrick Fairbairn: Hermeneutical Manual
- Patrick Fairbairn: The Revelation of Law in Scripture
- The Typology of Scripture - PBB Format
- Typology of Scripture Volume 2
- Philip Mauro
- Philip Schaff
- Ante-Nicene Fathers
- History of the Christian Church
- Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, Series 1
- Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, Series 2
- Person of Christ, the Miracle of History
- Romance of M. Renan, and the Christ of the Gospels
- The Creeds of Christendom - Volume 1
- The Creeds of Christendom - Volume 2
- The Creeds of Christendom - Volume 3
- Richard Baxter
- Robert Jamieson, A.R. Fausset, and David Brown
- Robert M'Cheyne Collection in PBB format
- Robert S. Candlish
- Robert William Dale
- Ruth Bryan
- St. Bernard of Clairvaux resources in PBB Format
- St. John of the Cross Titles in PBB Format
- St. Patrick
- St. Teresa of Avila
- Stephen Charnock
- The Great Consumation
- Thomas Aquinas
- Thomas Boston
- Thomas Brooks Collection in PBB format
- Thomas Watson
- Tony Reinke's "Come Unto Me" in pbb format
- Washington Gladden
- Wilbur N. Pickering
- William Law in PBB format
- William Mitchell Ramsay
- Libronix PBB Files
- Review: Logos Bible Software 4 for Mac
Books & Series
- Have you seen Logos 4 yet? I have...
- Installation and First Run
- Preparing and Indexing your L4 Library
- Logos 4 Splash Screen
- L4 Home Page
- Study the way you want to
- Hiding Resourcs
- Will my PBB's work in L4?
- Other Reviews
- Moving from Logos 3 to Logos 4
- Comparing the Logos Packages
- Copying Logos 4 from one computer to another
- Experiences importing Libronix 3 user data into Logos 4.0b
- Highlighting
- Is Something Missing?
- Logos 4 PBB is here!
- Libronix PBB Files
- A. J. Gordon
- A. W. Pink
- A. W. Tozer
- Abraham Kuyper
- Adolf Harnack
- Albert Barnes
- Albert Benjamin Simpson
- Alexander Campbell
- Alexander MacLaren
- Alfred Edersheim
- Allan MacRae
- Andrew Murray
- Archibald Thomas Robertson
- Arno C. Gaebelein
- Assorted
- "Hinduism and Buddhism Vol. 1 - A Historical Study"
- A Spate of New Libronix Titles
- Additional Miscellaneous Books
- Communist Manifesto In Libronix PBB format
- Couple PD commentaries in PBB format
- Grammar of Septuagint and PSEUDEPIGRAPHA - PBB format
- More Libronix PBB Books
- New Libronix PBB books
- PBB:PD Theology Collection
- PBBs from the Logos Files Newsgroup
- Public Domain History Collection - PBB format
- Studies in Christian Character - PBB format
- The Religion of Babylonia and Assyria
- B. B. Warfield
- Beverly Carradine
- Bibles
- Bob DeWaay
- C.H. Irvin : John Calvin 1509–1564 The Man and His Work
- Charles Bridges
- Charles Darwin
- Charles Finney
- Charles Hodge
- Charles Spurgeon
- David Guzik
- David Harsha
- Desiderius Erasmus
- Dwight Lyman Moody
- Edmond de Pressensé
- Edmund Venables
- Edward McKendree Bounds
- Ernst Wilhelm Hengstenberg
- Christology of the Old Testament, Volume II
- Christology of the Old Testament, Volume III
- Christology of the Old Testament, Volume IV
- E.W. Hengstenberg: Christology of the Old Testament, Vol. I
- Hengstenberg on Ecclesiastes
- Hengstenberg on Revelation, Vol. 1
- Hengstenberg on Revelation, Vol. 2; Revelation Vol. 1 Updated
- Hengstenberg on the Psalms, Vol. 1
- Hengstenberg on the Psalms, Vol. 2
- Hengstenberg on the Psalms, Vol. 3
- Hengstenberg's Psalms 1 + 2 Updated
- Hengstenberg: Commentary on Ezekiel
- Hengstenberg: Commentary on Gospel of John, Vol. 2
- Hengstenberg: History of the Kingdom of God Under the Old Testament, Vol. 1
- Hengstenberg: History of the Kingdom of God Under the Old Testament, Vol. 2
- Revelation Vol. 1 by Hengstenberg Revised
- Evelyn Underhill
- Frederick Brotherton Meyer
- Friedrich Wilhelm Krummacher
- Geerhardus Vos
- Geneva Bible Notes in PBB format
- George Morrison
- George Whitefield
- H. C. Leupold
- Hannah Whithall Smith
- Henry Allen Ironside
- Henry Law Collection in PBB Format
- Horatius Bonar Collection in PBB format
- J. C. Philpot
- J. Gresham Machen
- James Arminius
- James Candlish: The Biblical Doctrine of Sin
- James Denney
- James Devotional From TrailBlazin Ministries
- James Strong
- James Yu
- John Angell James Collection in PBB format
- John Bunyan's "The Works" in PBB format
- John Butler
- John Calvin
- John Charles Ryle
- John Donne
- John Flavel Collection - PBB format
- John Fox's Book of Martyrs in PBB format
- John Gill
- John MacDuff Collection in PBB format
- John McGarvey
- John Milton
- John Newton
- John Owen Collection in PBB
- John Peters
- Jonathan Edwards
- Joseph Addison
- Joseph Alleine
- Josephus
- Julian of Norwich
- Karl Barth
- Lewis R. Packard
- Lewis Sperry Chafer
- Louis Berkhof
- Louis Ginzberg
- Martin Luther
- Octavius Winslow Collection in PBB format
- Patrick Fairbairn
- Divine Revelation Explained and Vindicated
- Fairbairn on Jonah Revised
- Fairbairn on Pastoral Theology
- Patrick Fairbairn on Jonah
- Patrick Fairbairn on Prophecy
- Patrick Fairbairn, Typology of Scripture
- Patrick Fairbairn: Commentary on Ezekiel
- Patrick Fairbairn: Commentary on the Pastoral Epistles
- Patrick Fairbairn: Hermeneutical Manual
- Patrick Fairbairn: The Revelation of Law in Scripture
- The Typology of Scripture - PBB Format
- Typology of Scripture Volume 2
- Philip Mauro
- Philip Schaff
- Ante-Nicene Fathers
- History of the Christian Church
- Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, Series 1
- Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, Series 2
- Person of Christ, the Miracle of History
- Romance of M. Renan, and the Christ of the Gospels
- The Creeds of Christendom - Volume 1
- The Creeds of Christendom - Volume 2
- The Creeds of Christendom - Volume 3
- Richard Baxter
- Robert Jamieson, A.R. Fausset, and David Brown
- Robert M'Cheyne Collection in PBB format
- Robert S. Candlish
- Robert William Dale
- Ruth Bryan
- St. Bernard of Clairvaux resources in PBB Format
- St. John of the Cross Titles in PBB Format
- St. Patrick
- St. Teresa of Avila
- Stephen Charnock
- The Great Consumation
- Thomas Aquinas
- Thomas Boston
- Thomas Brooks Collection in PBB format
- Thomas Watson
- Tony Reinke's "Come Unto Me" in pbb format
- Washington Gladden
- Wilbur N. Pickering
- William Law in PBB format
- William Mitchell Ramsay
- Libronix PBB Files
- Review: Logos Bible Software 4 for Mac
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I have seen Dale's promise that PBBs will (sometime) be modified to become accessible in Logos 4, but does that mean that to access them we have to keep Logos 3 going until that happens? Or is there some way of making them accessible in Logos 4 as an interim measure? It seems a bit fiddly to have to keep both versions running side-by-side. Or am I missing something, for my installation of 4 didn't pick up any of them.
You are correct, you must keep Libronix 3 installed to use PBBs... Bothers me too... I plan to keep Libronixs 3 installed on both my "production" systems for at least the next 6 months... You could manually delete Libronix 3 resources that are in Logos 4, but you will lose any links made in V3 notes, highlights, and such as haven't been moved over yet either (if ever.)
Many thanks normanjd. At least I now know that I haven't anything else to do but wait! That must be good for our spiritual development I suppose!
Thanks for catching that John, I had to get offline for the weekend, I was starting to overload on the Logos forums. :-)
I am a user of Logos 3. I like it a lot, it has been so helpful with my bible study, sermon and lesson preparations.
I have read many comments and news about Logos 4 and it looks just great, however I have some concerns. I will appreciate if any of you can give me some answers or insight about your experience with logos 4:
1. I have a considerable large library that I have built over the past 3 years. I have the Scholar Library Silver. I have bought and install many other resources in addition to the ones that come with the Silver Collection. Is there backward compatibility with resources supported by version 3.0f. I have resources from Logos and from other sources made for Libronix (i.e. John McArthur collection, Nelson, etc)
2. Are there resources that were part of the Silver collections in version 3 that are not part of the collections in version 4? For instance, among others, I have not seen the Greek text NA27th with GRAMCORD morphology listed in the product comparison table
3. Are there are resources that have been eliminated from the collections? Are they erased when version 4 is installed?. If ther are not ereased can I use them eventhough they are not supported any more?
4. I have the sermon file add in. I have many sermons already compiled. Is this Add in still supported or part of version 4? Is the Sermon database or file compatible with version 4?
5. Once I upgrade to version 4, If later on I have to re-install version 4, do I have to install 3.0f with all resources first?
Thanks in advance!!
Here are the best answers I can give for now...
1) All of the normal book type resources I have used work with Logos4... This includes Scholar's, Various Nelson Lifeworks, and pretty much any other collection by vendors that I could find under $100... Resources such that included Video and/or Audio usually did not work... The Moody Self-Tests did not work... PBBs did not work at all... Support is planned for the future...
2) I am not sure, but it would not surprise me... Usually if Logos removes a resource, something has replaced it...
3) You never lose your existing resources when you upgrade, you keep what you already had and get any new resources that have been made available too. Only if you are buying a fresh copy will you not get the eliminated stuff...
4) I don't know if Sermon Files will be supported... I THINK they are treated like PBBs, so support would come at that time if its coming...
5) I recommend installing on a machine with all Libronix 3, then backing up for future recovery on a USB Hard Drive, as I put in the Copying Logos 4 article here: http://www.stilltruth.com/book-page/copying-logos-4-one-computer-another
After Logos makes available the last of the promised import tools in 2nd Q 2010 and you have transfered everything successfully, back it up to USB Hard Drive again, then wait 3 more months before you delete Libronx 3, just in case...
Thank you "normanjd"... it was very helpful.
I was planning to upgrade from the former Scholar Silver Library to the former Scholar Gold Library in 3.0f (only the NIGTC makes it worthy to do it!!!) but now looks like I have to do it with version 4
I beleive I will wait until Jan 2010 before to do it...I have to decide also if I'm going to stay with Windows Vista or move to Windows 7!
Thanks again !!
I have only one addenda to John's Excellent response.
The Sermon File addin will be coming back in 2010. Right now you can read your compiled sermon's in L4, but adding more will have to wait for the addin. OR, you can add more from L3 and then tell L4 to get them by typing: scan c:\path\to\sermonfile in the commandbar.
Thanks for the clarification "tcblack"....so based on your answer a long as I keep my sermon file updated through L3 I can continue access them (read them) in L4...
I have an additional question: if I have a resource (for instance Pillar New Testament Commentary 8 Vols) in L3 resource folder, Do I need just to copy them to the L4 resource folder or I have to installed again in L4 (given that I have the license, it is unlocked and I have synchronized the licenses)
Thanks in advance for all your help. I should be asking this to Logos customer service...but you have first hand user experience!! :)
Thanks again
Eddie
generally if you install a resource in L3, L4 should pick it up.
Again, if you're concerned that it has not then the scan command is your friend. Assuming you've already unlocked the Pillar collection in L3, L4 will sync the licenses. You have two options I think, one of which will work I hope. ;)
Type either one of these into the command bar:
1. scan c:\path\to\pillar
2. update resources
Just be aware that the resource will end up being downloaded anyway if a logos 4 version of it is available...
Thanks "normanjd" and "tcblack" for all your valuable and usefull information!.
have a considerable large library that I have built over the past 3 years. I have the Scholar Library Silver. I have bought and install many other resources in addition to the ones that come with the Silver Collection. Is there backward compatibility with resources supported by version 3.0f. I have resources from Logos and from other sources made for Libronixi (i.e. John McArthur collection, Nelson, etc)
Curt
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Yes, nearly all commercial products from Libronix 3.x are supported. I believe the only ones still having issues are the ones that use multi-media, but Logos continues to improve compatibility.
The beta testers, we've all done our part to break it as frequently as possible so that it won't break in your hands. The programmers, some of whom we've begun to recognize by name have done an outstanding Job developing a product that responds to the needs of Pastor's, teachers, seminarians, scholars and every Christian who wants to learn more about God's word. Thank you,.